What are they saying - OHSAA To Vote On A New Multiplier
By Dave Schmidt – www.theseniorreports.com
EDITOR’S NOTE –We
hope to update this article before the vote after school officials have time to
review the new issue.
(3-24-13) - In May members of the
Ohio High School Athletic Association will vote on a new multiplier after the
separate tournament referendum was withdrawn during the Boy’s State Basketball
Championships in Columbus. Below are quotes
from around the state from various articles (see links below).
%- If
this referendum fails the
Commissioner Daniel B. Ross
*-“Some ofthe initial discussions by the original OHSAA Competitive
Balance Committee included some ofthe same elements
that are in this new proposal,” Ross said. “It is generally believed that in
addition to the size of enrollment, students on a school’s team roster who are
from outside that school’s geographic boundary or attendance zone does affect
athletic success. So this concept is not something that is entirely
new.
“The beauty of
this new proposal is that all schools, public and non-public, would pass
through the same filter when applying the new formula. In addition, the roster
data that will be input by the member schools in this formula will be both
objective and independently verifiable. By approving this proposal, member
schools will be authorizing our Board of Directors and staff to develop and
test such a formula over
the next two-plus
years so that the exact factors added to a school’s enrollment and any kinks in
the data entry, collection and final formulas can be worked out.
“I want to thank
the administrators from
have changed the landscape of interscholastic athletics in
@- “It's the fairest proposal and the best
one so far,'' Ross said. “It deals with the issue about where kids come from
that play for your school. It only deals with the kids that are playing in that
sport. It hits the crux of the issue.''
“We feel very
comfortable with that,'' Ross said. “There's always going to be a group that
feels the tradition is a factor because success breeds success. The
socioeconomic factor we believe does have an effect. The proposal we have on
the table, at least right now, does not have those two as part of the tenets of
it.''
$-“Some of the initial
discussions by the original OHSAA Competitive Balance Committee included some of
the same elements that are in this new proposal,” Ross said. “It is generally
believed that in addition to the size of enrollment, students on a school’s
team roster who are from outside that school’s geographic boundary or
attendance zone does affect athletic success. So this concept is not something
that is entirely new.”
Triway Superintendent Dave Rice
@- "I believe this decision is in the best interest of kids and is a better alternative than separate tournaments and I'll sleep fine at night.
We never stopped looking at other options, and we finally
hit on something recently that we hoped people could get behind and support.''
#- “The wheels have been turning ever since the petition
was filed trying to think of better solutions,” Rice said. “I’m very
appreciative of the board for passing this and continuing to work on it with
us. Will there be backlash (from schools that wanted split tournaments),
absolutely. But we are doing what we feel is the right thing.
“We’ve said all along the goal wasn’t to have separate
tournaments,” Rice added. “I can’t emphasize that enough. We finally hit on
something we felt like would work for everyone. ... I believe this decision is
in the best interest of kids and is a better alternative than separate
tournaments, and I’ll sleep fine at night.”
**"In their opinion, if Division II
schools get multiplied and bumped up then their day just got more
difficult," said Rice. "For the smaller Division I public schools it
probably is going to make their lives more difficult but I don't have the
answer for that. We try to look at the greater good for everybody but there is
no perfect solution. This seemed to attack a large majority of the districts
that we serve."
Dalton Superintendent Scott Beatty
@- “We never wanted opportunities
taken away from young people,'' Beatty said. “When you start creating a system
that would do that, you really have to take a step back at what is being
accomplished here.''
Beatty received angry text messages from colleagues who supported the effort.
“They're not happy with the situation, but we think this is
a better overall solution.''
#-“It’s simple and it makes a lot of
sense,” Beatty said. “It’s fair and it applies the same standards to every
district whether it’s public or non-public. Everyone runs through the same
filter.”
@- “It's not solving the problem,'' he said. “Our system is broke right now. I don't know what the answer is, but I think the multiplier is putting a Band-Aid on an open gash.”
“They let Division I down,'' he said. “It's kind of like when you have a barn and you have a pile of crap in a stall and you push it to the next stall. The pile of crap is still in the barn and it still stinks. We haven't addressed the problem of the pile of crap in the barn.
“Ninety percent of schools in
Villa Angela-St. Joseph coach Babe Kwazniak
@- “I think it's a good
compromise.''
Former St. Ignatius
athletic director director and a member of the OHSAA
competitive-balance committee
Dale Gabor
@- “The separate tournaments was
a lose-lose for everybody, and now I think we have a win-win,''
%- “It basically forced our hand to finally find a workable solution,” he said. “Now, at least we’re committed to finding a resolution to avoid separate tournaments. Most of us would agree that separate tournaments was not the answer, but doing nothing was not the answer, either.”
%-
“I don’t think splitting the
schools was ever necessarily the answer but people are trying to come up with
some kind of solution.” “They’ve done similar things in other states, using a
multiplier, and I think that’s ultimately the right way to go, or at least to
be headed in that direction. Will it pass? Who knows? But I know enough people
are upset enough to warrant attention to the situation.”
“When they start
talking parochial or private schools and public schools everybody right away
jumps on the bandwagon and says public schools have open enrollment,” he said.
“That is true, but in open enrollment if a kid decides to go to another public
school they have to sit out a year. I don’t know how many people understand
that. How many kids are going to give up a year of playing sports just to
transfer to another school? Open enrollment is a misnomer and it’s not what
everybody thinks it is.”
Pat Pavlansky,
girls basketball coach at Canfield
$- “We love what we have at Canfield, we have
great kids, we have great support,” “Whoever they tell us to play, we’ll go
play them and that’s fine with me.”
Warren Harding
football coach Steve Arnold
$- “If you want to be considered an elite team you have to beat the top teams whether they are public or parochial,” “In talking with coaches at private schools, I don’t think they wanted separation from public schools and I don’t know how many public school coaches wanted the separation.
“It is what it is. You just to have to go out and play the game. As coaches we’re not in position to make the call, so we just deal with it and move forward.”
$- Cardinal Mooney football coach P.J. Fecko
“It’s everything in life whether it’s politics and political parties or this or that. You are never going to make 100 percent of the population of whatever you are doing happy,” he said. “You just need to go forward and try to put something in place that satisfies the majority of the people. No matter what side you’re on, no matter what side you agree with or disagree with, we know it’s impossible to satisfy everyone.”
%-
“Sure, this will affect us, but it sure beats a split, which we were all very fearful of,” Hill said. “We want to remain in the OHSAA, and if there had been a split, a lot of (parochial and private) schools might have gone off on their own. Who would we play then?”
"I haven't had a chance
to look at it yet," "From what I'm hearing, I don't know what kind of
benefit it has for a school like
Dover
Middle School Principal Ron Bond, the seventh- and eighth-grade representative
on the state board.
<< “There’s still a lot of work to do, but
this is still a better idea than a split.”
Quotes came from the
articles listed below---
Editor’s Note – Great coverage by these writers made this article possible
*News Release
–OHIOHIGHSCHOOLATHLETICASSOCIATION
http://www.ohsaa.org/news/board/2013-03-33CompetitiveBalanceRelease.pdf
@- OHSAA
private-public separation vote called off, replaced by new competitive-balance
proposal
http://www.cleveland.com/hssports/blog/index.ssf/2013/03/ohsaa_private-public_separatio.html
#- OHSAA NIXES VOTE TO
SEPARATE PUBLIC-PRIVATE TOURNEYS, SCHOOLS TO CONSIDER NEW 'MULTIPLIER'
REFERENDUM
$-OHSSA approves new competitive balance
proposal
&- OHSAA: Separate tourney issue off May ballot
http://www.vindy.com/news/2013/mar/23/ohsaa-separate-tourney-issue-off-may-vot/?newswatch
%- New plan keeps
public, private schools together
^ - OHSAA replaces referendum with multiplier formula proposal
http://www.news-herald.com/articles/2013/03/22/sports/nh6707140.txt
**- OHSAA reaches compromise on
tournaments
<<Proposal for separate high school tournaments is dropped
http://www.timesreporter.com/newsnow/x609792294/Proposal-for-separate-high-school-tournaments-is-dropped
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